It is all about W's right. All of the other numbers don't matter a lick if you aren't winning.

Oregon record before, during and after Ludwig
2000 10-2
2001 11-1
2002 7-6 (Ludwig)
2003 8-5 (Ludwig)
2004 5-6 (Ludwig)
2005 10-2 (Crowton)

Utah record before and after Ludwig
2003 10-2
2004 12-0
2005 7-5 (Ludwig)
2006 ?-? (Ludwig)